PUZZLE SOLVED.....

The main puzzle bit, was put in place by the kind help of Ardennes Cemetery.... Thank you Bert for allowing my questions and graciously taking the time to answer.  

While putting pictures with the memorials in Find a Grave I found 2 crosses, side by side and in between was a plaque in the ground with the names of 4 soldiers, their rank and unit.  I took the picture and moved to the next marker, but it kept niggling......



 And anyone that knows me even a little bit, knows that it's a recipe for trouble aka research :-)   

That didn't pan out as hoped, so I contacted the Ardennes Cemetery to see if they could tell me who put the plaque there, and when and why..... 

Received an answer almost immediately. 

- The Soldiers WERE identified  - in hindsight, evident in the inscription omitting " known only to God"

- The remains were comingled and therefor buried together 

- The plaque was put in place when the markers were, between 1947 and 1952.

- The practice is common throughout the ABMC cemeteries - I had not come across one (hence the niggling), but I will be more vigilant on my next visit to Margraten on Friday

SO, I'm happy and going quietly back to researching..... Just wanted to share this real quick

July 28, 2025

Well, that didn't go as planned.....

but it turned out alright.....

Remember I said I was going to get back to the pictures on the 18th, last month? Yeah, never happened. Hit a bit of a slump and didn't get back to it until a couple of days ago.

I put together the edited pictures with the information I already had prepared so I could keep track of the actual picture number for retrieval if anybody asked...... that was a bit more involved than what I thought it would be, so that slowed me up some..... but, it will be worth it, because I now have a better way to track the information, or to add information... Health didn't cooperate, and that slowed me up even more, but... I think I'm possibly, maybe on track again :-) So.... Thursday, I started posting the pictures, and I just got done about 2 hours ago....

Got all memorials "pictured" for Plot A. Weeeeeelllll the ones I took pictures of, anyway, because there's about 30 that I missed as in I missed A WHOLE ROW at a time, so that's going on the next trip.  While posting the pictures, I found there were 2 markers that didn't have a memorial, so I added them, and started the research on the soldiers and this is where I'm happily going to be losing some sleep, because it's a puzzle.....    Let me run you thru my process, such as it is:   

- Between the 2 crosses listing TWO COMRADES IN ARMS was a placque with 4 names, so I started looking for them......  

- DPAA site didn't know any of the 4 surnames names listed, so I started to look around a bit more as to different ways of searching, I searched for the bomb group listed on the placque.... nothing: searched by first name.... again, nothing and just for giggles, I put in an X-number from the list of memorials I was working from, and it came back with a name, and a wealth on intel.  So. one more way to find information :-)   I REALY REALLY R.E.A.L.L.Y! have to yank my leash, here, because now, all I want to do is see what I can find on the few X-numbers that I have, but Back to the intended targ ets.... Since I don't have the X-numbers, I can't find them that way so I'm storing the information for later.

 - Newspaper articles will come next:  Just googled the name, added WW2 to it and waited to see what shook out..... A couple of websites I can add to the research information for general information, (limited)information on the mission they perished on, the name of the bomber, some family members and final resting places were what I found, so that's a lot. Fun and useful stuff and an indication of where I will spending my time as soon as I'm "done" with Plot B!

Now, even though I am happy as a lark with all the information already found, what holds me back from doing anything with it, other than putting it together per Soldier to put with the memorial, eventually, is the fact that they are not mentioned anywhere on the DPAA site. One I can see, if family has not been notified, but all 4 seems a bit awkward.... So tomorrow, I will look into the site a little more, since I'm sure there is more than one feature I've missed discovering :-) 

July 26, 2025 


Ardennes American Cemetery

 Yup! I'm "working" on the third Cemetery that is within driving distance.

David starting mapping the 792 Unknown Soldiers of Ardennes. I didn't realized that he had indeed started, until I saw that he had 182 photo requests logged, so I've got some catching up to do.

At this point, I want to also cover the history of the Cemeteries, so I may add individual pages for each. I'm not sure how many pages I can add to one blog, so they may all end up as their own section on one page, but the intent is, either way, to cover the cemeteries seperate from the hints and tips and the progress of finding things.

 Buuuuuut..... :-)

Ardennes.

I planned and plotted, and postponed, planned some more and postponed, mainly for health reasons, but I finally got to go this week. It was SO GOOD! Every cemetery is the same, as in the solemness, the quiet and the sheer amount on crosses, marking a lost life, and at the same time they all have a different feel in the back ground, making each a different experience.

I actually had help this time. I conned a friend of mine into going with me, and it made the day go by faster. It was not like it was when Mike went with me, and it never will be like that again, but it was nice. It wasn't really hot, which helped, I had actually brought the picnic basket, not just packed it (great help) and because it was the 2 of us, I actually took a break, which made it so that I could actually spend more time.

The sheer number of Unknowns is staggering for this cemetery vs Henri Chapelle and Margraten. David has been putting up memorials every day since May, and last count was a little over half of the Soldiers..... It's a job, for sure, but a job we both do with love. Not just to memorialize those that gave their all, but for the families, so they may know where their loved ones were while not in their care. Some may never be accounted for, and now, they too, will have a place among the fallen on Find a Grave. 

The day started pretty much like I always do. I printed the list of photo requests by section and was going to go down the list, and do my thing, until I realised that there were so many not yet on that list, that it would become a cluster to keep track of the ones "done" vs the ones not plotted yet, so I changed gears for this cemetery. We each took a section, and started at row 7, and just went down the line, photographing the Unknown. We each got one section done, and it took us about 6 hours. Between us, we took 500 pictures, so I'm spending the next couple of weeks editing, cataloging, researching and posting. We did not cover 500 graves, because..... overviews, doubles because the first one got flubbed-up, sights that caught our eyes, and generally getting distracted by something, so, yes.... 500 pictures, not that many markers to post.  

As with Henri Chapelle and Margraten, I enticipate that once all the memorials of the Unknown have a picture, I will have to go back to improve on some of them, but that's ok. It's a nice place to be, and even if it is just not to take pictures, I will visit again, and again.

Check out the hints and tips, because I talked to the Super-Intendant, and learned some new things, which also changes my way of doing research a little.... for the better :-)

For right now, I'm going to the zoo, so I will pick up where I left off, tomorrow, and add that information on research.


July 12, 2025

 

PS:  I forgot to tell you something really cool!  While I was documenting the Unknown Soldiers, a couple came up to me, and started asking questions and it was so gratifying to be able to answer them, give them a little bit of "extra" history about the cemetery and how they came to be, besides the solemness of the place by walking around. As it happens, I was standing at the markter that read: "Here rest in Honored Glory THIRTEEN comrades in arms  Known but to God" when the couple approached me.

I had just gotten to that marker, and it took a couple of double takes when the gentleman asked me how that could be, that there were Thirteen Soldiers buried under one marker..... I'm still not quite over it, to be honest. I DID promise myself that I would find out, if/when they were identified, and to keep track of the newly accounted for on the DPAA website.  I told him, that sometimes, the men found together, were buried in the same grave by the people that initially found them, but also, that the prison-camps would bury their dead prisonors in mass graves, so when the Quartermaster Corps found them, they would try to seperate them, but that was sometimes not an option, and the Soldiers would be transported as a group so there could be an attempt made in identifying them. If that was unsuccessful, the men would be buried together again... With todays DNA testing, and a different methodology for identifying remains, I told them, there is a fair chance that at least some of them will be accounted for, but when that would be, I could not tell. I told them I did not work for the cemetery, and was just an interested volunteer who wanted to do right by the Soldiers who did not get to go home, that I did research for those who asked, and for those accounted for when I could.

 

Counted!

I kinda fell into this rabbit hole thru absolutely no fault of my own...... Yeah, I wouldn't be buying that, either :-)  

But seriously. It never consiously registered that the Unknown Soldiers and those on the Walls of the Missing were still actively persued. I mean, I knew if remains were found, they would be looked at, and identification would be attempted, but that was pretty much the extend of my knowledge and I'm "blaming" my new friend David Zimmerman for enlightening me, and setting me on this path, of wanting to know the stories behind the markers that so heartbreakingly read: 

Comrade in Arms  Known but to God.

You see, he started making memorials for all these soldiers on Find a Grave, and he hit my radar when he entered Henri Chapelle aka my neck of the woods.  I took on the challenge of taking pictures of the markers, and started researching the X-numbers he mentioned on 3 of the markers.  

Aaaaaand that brings me to the rabbit hole! 

In talking to the office at Henri Chapelle, I learned things.... and when I learn things, it's like there's a trapdoor attached, because I want to learn more :-)  So I went to the DPAA website, armed with the list of the Wall of the Missing for Henri Chapelle, to see if the recoveries would mention the grave the now "accounted for" soldiers had occupied. That's when I found out, this particular rabbit hole has junctions, lots of them! :-)

The good part is, that I'm finding more and more websites to share, and ways to research Military records and Soldiers, as well as units.... and I hope that finding all this out, will help me with his next project.... David is putting memorials up for the almost 800 Unknowns in Ardennes Military Cemetery.  I'm doing this happily and voluntarily, with full understanding that it's going to take a lot of time, and I'm quietly freaking out about the scale of it.....  (I have 3 days planned, so far, trying to get as many days in as possible before Fall, since my little slip of a car does not do well on slick (mountain) roads, and the old lady driving it, sometimes does not do well driving in the dark on backroads :-) So I'll be taking a break starting when the sun sets around 5 until spring....  The upside of winter? Lights inside come on early, enhancing the cozyness and the possibility of doing research online and working on putting it in some what of an order :-)

I'm sure if you spent any time on the blog at all, you're already aware....  I get sidetracked easy, sorry.  Back to what you came for :-)

I discovered that a lot of the "accounted for" are from accidental finds. I thinks it's awesome, and completely over the top, that they are identified and brought home after more than 80 years. But it also made me realise how many places don't see a whole lot of human traffic and with 1409 people per square mile in The Netherlands,  1006 in Belgium and 625 for Germany, it all starts to make sense.....  and compared to the US ( 57/Iowa and 94 in general), this continent feels crowded :-) 

So, as a start, I'm trying to findout where the x-numbers are kept, and what information is available for the Unknown Soldiers buried in "my" cemeteries, so I can keep an eye on the accounted for and pass the information on to David to update the memorials, or slip the information in as part of the posted picture.... If you know, PLEASE share your knowledge in the comments, otherwise it will hit this page if I ever find out :-)

I found out about a file that covers A LOT of information on a persons military service. I've seen it called the "death file" and some acronym that made so much sense that I can't remember, so I'll be googling "death file" soon and hope I find the site I found it on the first time.. Pretty sure everyone has had this happen... you follow one thread, thru so many website, you have no clue where you came thru and somewhere in the travels was a very interesting website you want to get back to, but there is no way to retrace your steps.... Yeah, that's what happened there too.

And there is, of course the DPAA website where the first notification of an Accounted for Soldier is made. Sometimes they give everything in the first sitting, sometimes it's a bit of a search to find it all, but overall, it's interesting and SO good that the soldiers are still coming home.  Whether done by volunteers of paid employees, I can't help but think "Thank you" every time I find a memorial... 

In a small way, I like to help families that do not have the chance to come see where their loved one was being cared for. There's that absolute thrill when you can put the Soldiers' story together from enlistment, thru his campaigns, his death and the places that were part of his travel before ending up in a Military Cemetery...  I enjoy that as much as when I find family, because I KNOW that by me putting those loose ends together, a family member has a chance to fill in the story of the Soldier that didn't come home.

The reason I'm hunting down the x-numbers, is that sometimes in the announcement, the x-number is given, but not the cemetery the soldier was buried at, or if the cemetery is mentioned, there is no mention of the grave site... Now I'm (most of the time, because things DO slip thru the cracks while entering/collecting information) about the details in my research, and it just seems like there's a bit missing that way..... It feels to me like the place where the Soldier was resting before he was identified, is just as important to his story, as his service and his ultimate place of burial. The file atached to the x-numbers, also should have his "in between" resting place and where he was initially found, and, again.... that is important to his story :-)

Going to Ardennes soon to get a start at the Unknown markers, meanwhile, while it's too hot  to move, I get to play and do the research :-)